I have been toying with the idea of downgrading the M3 and have been shopping around a lot, mostly on youtube/forums.
Carlos Lago of Motor Trend described the 2015 Ford Focus as a "FWD M3" at the end of his recent review video. He seems to really have a blast in that car and is probably somewhat of a fanboi... but is he right? is the Focus ST a $25k FWD M3? Granted you give up a LOT as far as everything but functionality goes (quality, performance, sexiness) but the car is still somewhat aggressive (if not F&F and slightly childish looking) and seems to be at least a lot of fun to drive. It seems like it would hold up to some casual track time with new pads/fluid and maybe an oil cooler/separator down the road. FWD dynamics are much different but apparently can still be fun (and the B-Spec racing stuff seems like FWD isn't a complete deal breaker for a fun/competitive track day car).
I love the m3 and i think it's perfect for me, but saving a bunch of cash each month doesn't seem like a terrible thing. i know i'd lose a bunch on trade-in and be generally let down in every department but as long as i'm having fun i think i could get used to and over a lot of the shortcomings.
i'm not necessarily bored of the M3 but i do think getting new cars is exciting ... even if it's a downgrade .. it's still hype up in my head (and reviews). does anyone also have an ST to play around with or came from one before? i test drove another replacement consideration, the 5.0 mustang with performance pack.. wow that thing felt so sloppy i couldn't believe it. i knew it wouldn't feel as nimble but it was worse than i expected. GTI with performance pack is a though but very boring looking to me which is a huge turnoff and the stability control i don't think is 100% defeatable. the Golf R in manual and Focus RS aren't available yet and i by the time they come out i won't be interested anymore. the mini cooper s would be fun and is probably #2 behind the focus ST. i want something fun on the road, can have car seats in a pinch for my two little kids (2 yr old and 10 month old) and hold up to some HPDE weekends with pads, fluid, tires. has to be a new car.
i really should just keep the M3 but i just can't help but shop around.....:help: i've posted similar threads before but still trying to gather intel and the new ST video got my attention. thought i'd try in this area of the forum for feedback...
Carlos Lago of Motor Trend described the 2015 Ford Focus as a "FWD M3" at the end of his recent review video. He seems to really have a blast in that car and is probably somewhat of a fanboi... but is he right? is the Focus ST a $25k FWD M3? Granted you give up a LOT as far as everything but functionality goes (quality, performance, sexiness) but the car is still somewhat aggressive (if not F&F and slightly childish looking) and seems to be at least a lot of fun to drive. It seems like it would hold up to some casual track time with new pads/fluid and maybe an oil cooler/separator down the road. FWD dynamics are much different but apparently can still be fun (and the B-Spec racing stuff seems like FWD isn't a complete deal breaker for a fun/competitive track day car).
I love the m3 and i think it's perfect for me, but saving a bunch of cash each month doesn't seem like a terrible thing. i know i'd lose a bunch on trade-in and be generally let down in every department but as long as i'm having fun i think i could get used to and over a lot of the shortcomings.
i'm not necessarily bored of the M3 but i do think getting new cars is exciting ... even if it's a downgrade .. it's still hype up in my head (and reviews). does anyone also have an ST to play around with or came from one before? i test drove another replacement consideration, the 5.0 mustang with performance pack.. wow that thing felt so sloppy i couldn't believe it. i knew it wouldn't feel as nimble but it was worse than i expected. GTI with performance pack is a though but very boring looking to me which is a huge turnoff and the stability control i don't think is 100% defeatable. the Golf R in manual and Focus RS aren't available yet and i by the time they come out i won't be interested anymore. the mini cooper s would be fun and is probably #2 behind the focus ST. i want something fun on the road, can have car seats in a pinch for my two little kids (2 yr old and 10 month old) and hold up to some HPDE weekends with pads, fluid, tires. has to be a new car.
i really should just keep the M3 but i just can't help but shop around.....:help: i've posted similar threads before but still trying to gather intel and the new ST video got my attention. thought i'd try in this area of the forum for feedback...
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